Unique: Ha it better not be damn or else I would be an even bigger hypocrite then I already am just being a breathing person.
dyke
(sorry)
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
Unique: Ha it better not be damn or else I would be an even bigger hypocrite then I already am just being a breathing person.
dyke
(sorry)
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
I think Parli what you just said not only makes perfect sense but perhaps helps to shed light on the matter.
a) Yep, it is a medical condition. Mentally retarded, stunted growth.
b) When ya call someone a retard you are in essence taking something that is serious and causes much pain to others and making light of it.
I have no problem with it being used in a clinical sense. I don't like it, but it is what it is.
Ip:
You certainly are not wrong! Of course we need to teach our special kids that there are ignorant fools out there.
But that does not mean that we can't try to curb the use of the word does it?
That we can't say oh hey look this is really really not a cool way to call someone dumb or stupid. It's just mean.
Btw I owe you an apology, the way you responded I thought you were defending Your own use of it, I was mistaken and I am really sorry for coming at you that way, I misunderstood you. My apologies for that.
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
Parli: Yeah, yeah I know I thought of that too. I suppose I don't "get it". Cracker. Crackers come in different colors...but the point is there and thankx for getting it.
Hm I guess I missed the other threads (well some of them anyway) where that word was used but I know I used it recently (can't remember if I used it about myself or...I need to look at that post again).
Yeah I can see why you would be sensitive about that word, I have a younger brother Daivd (he's 37 now) who is mentally and physically handicapped. David was in a swimming pool accident when he was almost 5 years old. He drowned but was saved only to have brain damage which affects his speech, left him unable to walk, and with the mind of a child. Growing up my sister Suzie, my brother Wes, and I were very protective of David. Didn't like the way people would stare at him, can't control that but we would stare back and usually make some remake about how rude that person was.
But for some reason I'm not that sensitive about the word retard, though I rarely use it. Now if someone dared to use that word to describe my child (who has autistic tendencies and sensory issues which can manifest into some different behaviors) then I would have a problem.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't care if that word is used as long as it is not used as a put down towards anyone (self putdowns are different), I don't consider it to be on the same level as N or C or MF or even B. But I will respectfully try not to use that word in the future.
Josie
I am really sorry about your brother. But ya know, I am very happy he has YOU as a sister and siblings that care so much about him. Thanks for understanding.
((((( )))))) HUGS AND KISSES TO YOU (((((( )))))) Thank you for this topic.I was just sitting here trying to figure out how to not be offensive while pointing out that I was offended.
I have never been worried about the PC way to say "retarded". Doesn't matter to me if you use that word or "developmentally delayed" or "mentally challenged".
As the mother of such a child I can tell you that the "spirit " in which the word is used matters more than the actual term.
I find it extremely hurtful to make fun of helpless people that can't defend themselves.
The fact that I've only recently discovered that the paradise is a lot of hooey hasn't helped. My son lived until he was 23. He never talked or walked without a walker. He ate food the consistency of baby food and wore diapers his whole life.
He was a happy, smiling, loving kid with an infectious laugh. And yes, he rode a short bus.
Ok now I'm just crying. I suppose you hit it, the spirit of the word. Don't use it in a bad way, please don't peeps. I am so sorry about the loss of the paradise. I know and I have spent many nights crying over that loss. Not just for my daughter, she is awesome. I have seen so much of it in the last 10 years that knowing there is no paradise for these kids to be "healed" is just hard.
My brother still rides in a short bus. Now my son rides a short bus
Love the short bus!
The short bus carries some very wonderful and amazing people.
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
I agree with you. Somebody I care about very much is the "R" word or, "Developmently Disabled". My mother never forgave an uncle who made fun of this person. So, I should be more sensitive than most. Sometimes we hear things uttered around us and then we let it slip out even if there is no real malice intended on our part.
I realize we live in a crass world where people make fun of things that aren't funny. You daily hear jokes about fat people, etc. I am not attacking any particular poster, but sometimes people pick up bad habits. The problem is that our world is being politically corrected to death. So, this just adds one more oops to the list.
thank you thank you thank you for getting it.
When someone you care about is that, you see how much it hurts them. When someone you care about is that kid on the short bus and their short bus is used to make fun of people....it crushes them.
The world is very crass and yes it is easy to pick up bad habits. Damn I have em.
I guess that is just why I finally just had to say something.
I do not use the word retard.
Not because I think it is wrong or offensive but because I dont want to look like an ignorant fool.
It IS offensive. Yes you would look like an ignorant fool. But if that's the Only reason, and you aren't seeing that to some kid with cp and mild delays coming from a "cool" (not meant to be rude, being serious here) guy like you, how that could really hurt him......then dude.....you aren't the guy I thought you were.
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
but it isn't that way....
especially in the case of kids on the short bus who get treated like retards and are made to feel like retards and less then a person.
Tell them what you said.
I invite you to a Special Olympics in your area and use the word Retard.
When the people around you look at you like you are the most insensitive person in the world...explain it to them.
ok people we need to talk.. if you put up on this forum the n word, the d word, the c word.....i don't even want to spell them out because i am not going to offend people i care about.
if you need to know send me a pm.
you know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
Ok people we need to talk.
If you put up on this forum the N word, the D word, the C word.....I don't even want to spell them out because I am not going to offend people I care about. If you need to know send me a pm.
You know the words that trigger the gut reactions.
The kick in the stomach.
Etc
You need to add a word to that list:
RETARD.
When you use that word to describe a person or yourself in a negative way you are being incredibly rude to people like my daughter and her friends.
When you make the joke about the short bus you are being an ass and not only will I NOT read your posts anymore I will ignore the hell out of you if I find that you take delight in that word.
Wanna get down on me for asking you to censor your mouths a bit?
Fine. Don't care, I ain't backing down on this.
We would be pissed off, incensed with people who came on our board and used the derogatory words above. Wouldn't we?
Well I am pissed off that people can throw around the R word without a care in the world.
Get some empathy.
I am not Mad at any one person, I am finding that people in general don't "get it" and am here to inform you that you need to.
i looked to find that the original of a certain video was also removed.
it turns out that what was presented as public domain was in fact copyrighted and wrongly posted by some jw.
i found it and thinking it was published with permission to use, as are most all videos on the site, i lampooned it.
pssssssssssssssssst
retard is not very pc
i will be on the radio today at 5pm central time on a program known as catholic answers live.
here is the link if you want to listen on-line:.
http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar.php.
Jeff thank you for the info will see you at cxjw later today..
And to the above goons....
Jeff does not push his religion in anyone's face why come at him like that?
i was doing a search through facebook and myspace and i found some guys i grew up with.
they left the borg a while back and we all lost touch.
funny thing is i've been thinking about one of them a lot recently, as we were really good friends right up until he left, and i have often wondered how he's doing.
Well then I am Happy For you F2T!!
I have been wondering about some old friends...perhaps I'll try facebook then!
i'll give you a few clues.. she loves the chicago bears and cubs.
she loves drinking coke.
she is hot, smart, and funny.
Where has SHE been anyway?